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Severine

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"If I Ever" video
« on: December 21, 2004, 04:19:49 am »
OK, I've seen some screenies of this, but not the video itself. What the heck is going on in this clip? TT hasn't, you know... switched teams or anything, has she? I think I'd be devastated.

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Re: "If I Ever" video
« Reply #1 on: December 21, 2004, 04:23:16 am »
DEAR HLB:

VIDEOS TELL A STORY.  THEY DON'T NECESSARILY REFLECT THE PERSONAL LIFE OF THE SINGER!!  :-X

GO WITH THE FLOW BABY...   :-*

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Re: "If I Ever" video
« Reply #2 on: December 21, 2004, 05:55:22 am »
That's what I thought, but since there's so many folks here in the forum that know all sorts of stuff I don't, I thought I'd ask. Thanks for the reassurance, tho. Don't know why, but somehow it kinda matters.

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Re: "If I Ever" video
« Reply #3 on: December 21, 2004, 04:53:33 pm »
If I Ever video... That's a tough one :) Sometimes I feel it's terribly awkward, and sometimes I think it's funny. Tanita is beautiful as always, and she's a bit more... wilder than usual :) She smiles at least. Low budget, raunchy and cheesy :)

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Re: "If I Ever" video
« Reply #4 on: December 21, 2004, 09:28:48 pm »
I've never seen the video for If I Ever.. What's the story in it?

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Re: "If I Ever" video
« Reply #5 on: December 21, 2004, 10:11:31 pm »
Well, I wouldn't call it a story. Tanita flirts with a guy. They pester each other. And the next thing we see is that they look rather shabby, kinda post-copulation :) And Tanita leaves the guy :)

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Re: "If I Ever" video
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2004, 01:27:11 am »
Well, I don't know if all of you here can relate to this, but to some of us, obviously, it's meaningful to know that the 'story' isn't an indication that TT is no longer 'one of us.' Not in a possessive sense or anything silly like that, but... it's not like it'd be unimportant.

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Re: "If I Ever" video
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2004, 07:58:06 am »
Isn’t it that video where tanita assaulted this poor guy? :) I saw it fragmentarily. Anyway I must dowload all that stuff if I only had some free time.
Hlb – I’m sure I’ll catch eventually what I miss in your messages :)

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Re: "If I Ever" video
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2004, 08:30:01 am »
I guess I *have* been kind of cryptic, Patka... must be all the Tanita lyrics in my head!

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Re: "If I Ever" video
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2004, 11:22:11 am »
Now I can remember the movie „My Own Private Idaho” where Keanu actally not only flirt but had sex with River Phenix. So what’s your point? I don’t think Tanita is the kind of gay icons like kd lang or Melissa Etheridge that everyone has very specific image of them. Well, we’d better drop this topic  ;)

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Re: "If I Ever" video
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2004, 11:39:41 am »
Tanita never encouraged this "one of us" view in her music, videos, attitude, etc. It is quite futile to discuss her sexual orientation, as one doesn't have to be gay to be a gay icon. I don't think it is a vital part of her art. So discussing it is rather gossipping (which is fine ;D) rather than trying to understand her art. And because she is a very private person, I don't think that the video itself is more than a game.


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Re: "If I Ever" video
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2004, 10:03:40 pm »
Well, that's all true, but at the same time, with an artist who puts so much of her heart and soul into her music, I think we can't quite separate who she is from the art she makes (but that is an old and very divisive debate in the art world). And there are plenty of TT songs that really only make sense taking her sexual orientation into account. This has nothing to do with being a "gay icon." It's a simplistic and very reductionist term and I have no idea what a gay icon is supposed to be, ultimately. That said, some of you may underestimate how relevant that aspect of TT's personality and work has been in the gay community. Neither is her appearance in 'Erotique' altogether random. But the main point here is, don't forget that for many people this is an intimate matter and of some importance in relating to an artists's works. Obviously, I'm not saying that you have to be part of the G&L community to appreciate Tanita's art. All I'm saying is, please do understand that if you are, that aspect of it becomes a little more meaningful to you than when you're not. In a very personal way, there is a sense of looking to certain artists you like and admire, especially those that really have something to say, and feel understood. I think most of the time, that is why we relate to artistst, anway. So obviously, it's something you attach importance to. There's a lot of things in Tanita's works that I can relate to on that level and should it turn out one day that, well, that's not her anymore, I'd still love her music and art (not to mention that I respect anyone's right to change in very "Max Frisch" kind of way) to bits, but I'd also feel a sense of loss. Some may understand that, some may not.
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Re: "If I Ever" video
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2004, 09:47:56 am »
If I Ever isn't on the server. I have it only on video and I'm not yet able to copy it, or make a mpg file of it. Dee, do you have it on your dvd?
But Yodelling Song should be on the server.

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Re: "If I Ever" video
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2004, 06:46:33 pm »
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Re: "If I Ever" video
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