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Zsombor

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The weakest songs of Tanita
« on: June 02, 2004, 10:10:23 pm »
What are the weakest songs of TT?

In my opinion:

Me in mind
I love the Heaven's solo(album version)
Love don't need no tyranny
I like this
Little Sister leaving town(album version)

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Re: The weakest songs of Tanita
« Reply #1 on: June 04, 2004, 11:39:20 am »
I've never liked Poor Cow.

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Re: The weakest songs of Tanita
« Reply #2 on: June 04, 2004, 08:27:53 pm »
Heal You has never really been of my favourites among Tanita's songs. Or Hot Pork Sandwiches.

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Re: The weakest songs of Tanita
« Reply #3 on: June 08, 2004, 08:09:05 pm »
First, at the risk of sounding like a hopeless fanatic, I would like to say that a "weak" Tanita Tikaram song is probably better than the best of many other singer/songwriters. Even set against the high standard of her own best work, few songs strike me as generally "weak," as opposed to, say, unfinished (Have You Lost Your Way has a great song somewhere in there waiting to emerge) or questionably produced (the slick production on many Sweet Keeper songs can grate on my nerves) or not remarkably performed (some of the vocal work on Everybody's Angel sounds hurried and breathless). I've mentioned before my dislike for the remixes too, which isn't meant to denigrate the original songs.

Having said that, I would admit that If I Ever is largely disposable (without being particularly fun in its disposability the way a Stereo Totale song would be).

I am surprised that Heal You made it onto someone's list - it is a personal favorite of mine, but I suppose lists like these are bound to provoke disagreements. However I can understand why an earlier post mentioned the album version of Little Sister Leaving Town - the live version (especially the Norway performance) is utterly staggering.

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Re: The weakest songs of Tanita
« Reply #4 on: June 11, 2004, 11:00:30 am »
I've never liked Poor Cow.

I've just realised the ambiguity of my previous post. I hope PoorCow won't take it as a bloodthirsty attack on him. The song. The song... ;)

BTW, the very first time I heard Heal You I didn't quite know what to do with myself, hide under my bed or run off somewhere, anywhere but to the room it was being played in. My initial reaction was shock and shame because at the time my brother (who isn't very fond of Tanita's music) was also listening and said something like: She's drunk or what? That's off key. And I had to admit that it 'sorta' was.

After a while the song grew on me and it's one of my favourites even now. The way she sings it reminds me of Not Waving But Drowning, which can also leave an uncertain feeling after the very first listen as to whether it's something with my ears or she's not quite getting it right? This song is also one of my favourites now, btw. Some time ago I conducted a little experiment with the song. I was analysing Stevie Smith's poem with my students and later on I played the song for them. They were quite positive about it, but after the class had finished some of them were sorta still in the mood for singing and pretending to be drunkards gave way to singing... Makes you think, doesn't it?
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Re: The weakest songs of Tanita
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2004, 08:19:18 pm »
Thank you DeeDee for your considerate (and hilarious) clarification. For the record, I like the song Poor Cow more than I like the person who has taken the song title as a name on this forum!

I've loved Heal You from the moment I first heard it, but I am fully aware that it could prove displeasing to other listeners. This song, as well as a few others (like Women Who Cheat On The World), suggests to me that Tanita has tried to incorporate the more mournful elements of blues singing into her style. I hear a bit of Bessie Smith and a bit of Etta James (circa Mystery Lady) in the performance, as well as a hint of funeral singing from any number of cultures.

Kate Bush fans often debate the vocal performance in the song Houdini that begins with the words, "with your spit / still on my lip ..." I recall one fan describing this performance as the "horror show" part of the album; not surprisingly, the fan responsible for this comment approached Ms. Bush as an eccentric pin-up girl, not as an artist. Personally, I think both performances are tremendous.

It is entirely possible that I am supplying Tanita's performance with attributes that Tanita herself did not intend. The drunkeness observation did not cross my mind until I read it on this forum - as it turns out, Leonard Cohen's performance of Always on his album The Future was indeed the result of being drunk - by his own admission he passed out in the booth while recording the track. So you never know.

I like the effect of hearing Tanita's particularly sweet vocal on To Drink The Rainbow immediately following Heal You; I feel it is the high point of the album.

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Re: The weakest songs of Tanita
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2004, 12:11:28 am »
as it turns out, Leonard Cohen's performance of Always on his album The Future was indeed the result of being drunk - by his own admission he passed out in the booth while recording the track.

Oh, I didn't know that. I've always thought Always sounded pretty weird but at the same time really amusing when he sorta picks on the ladies doing the backing vocals (what a pity he didn't get a slap for that). What I thought was that this was probably the effect of his getting older and not being able to sing as nice as he used to when he was younger. But then again the whole song is meant to be very lighthearted, at least that's the impression I get.

Well, coming back to the original thread, I think it's been mentioned before that If I Ever was one of the "weak" ones. The weakness may stem from the fact that it's been styled after the omnipresent pop craze mania. Tanita herself labelled it a cheesy pop song, which (sadly) is very true of the song as much as it is true of the genre. A lot of people (i.e. fans) objected to her going this direction, but I tend to look at it as Tanita's attempt to have a good laugh about it with a slight touch of irony. However, I wouldn't be so sure about her next album (if any at all). Should it happen to be all pop'n'cheese then my wonderful theory about Tanita doing it on purpose will fall into ruin. I'd like to think she knows what she's doing with it. Kids, don't try this at home sorta thing.
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Re: The weakest songs of Tanita
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2004, 04:16:49 am »
Well, I could never quite warm up to ... shoot, I can't think of anything. Sure, there's some songs I like a lot more than others, but anything she simply lends her voice to is enjoyable to me. Her voice is like crack. Or chocolate. I mean, I even love "Leaving the Party."

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Re: The weakest songs of Tanita
« Reply #8 on: June 23, 2004, 01:36:42 pm »
The thing that I think is matter with Heal You is not really the song itself. Actually it is a very fine song and I like a lot the way Tanita sounds 'drunken' when she sings it. The reason why it's one of my least favourite songs from Tanita is, that it brings back bad memories. I must've been listening to it the first time in some negatively weird situation and now the song reminds me of that... and it ruins it for me. It's a shame cos otherwise it might be among my favourite songs of Tanita. There is some similarity between Heal You and Not Waving But Drowning and the latter song I love.

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Re: The weakest songs of Tanita
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2004, 09:10:15 am »
yodelling song..
"look my eyes are just holograms..."

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Re: The weakest songs of Tanita
« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2004, 04:20:53 pm »
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I tend to look at it as Tanita's attempt to have a good laugh about it with a slight touch of irony

I agree completely. I think it would be a mistake to feel betrayed by the choices she made with the song. It is unfortunate, however, that the song didn't quite come off as giddy or unhinged as it could have. It is a curious kind of fun that asks us to remind ourselves that we are having it.




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Re: The weakest songs of Tanita
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2004, 06:41:12 pm »
I've never liked Poor Cow.

I kinda like Poor Cow .
According to one of the Tanita interviews which I downloaded on the ftp server ,
she said Poor Cow was the very first song she ever wrote ...


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Re: The weakest songs of Tanita
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2004, 06:42:16 pm »
Heal You has never really been of my favourites among Tanita's songs. Or Hot Pork Sandwiches.

Hot Pork Sandwiches , well I luv the accoustic version of that song better then the studio version ...

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Re: The weakest songs of Tanita
« Reply #13 on: November 22, 2004, 04:29:42 am »
Different songs from Tanita appeal to me at different times.  Even the ones I thought I did not initially like as well as others that jumped out at me, grow and become my favorites.  That was interesting comparing her voice to crack or chocolate.  It it even more basic for me--I go to the elements:  deep as the sea, hot as fire, open as the sky.  I saw changes in her voice in LITC and TCS.  That's why I want to hear her now so much.  I know her voice will have evolved and become more timeless.

I like her voice so much there are no songs that I feel are weak.  I can hear them all and be happy!
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Re: The weakest songs of Tanita
« Reply #14 on: November 26, 2004, 09:51:44 pm »
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I know her voice will have evolved and become more timeless

I like to think that in ten or fifteen years Tanita's voice will be as rich, nuanced and heartbreaking as Cesaria Evora's.