Author Topic: Always trying to reach the rest of us...  (Read 3394 times)

Graham

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Always trying to reach the rest of us...
« on: September 09, 2002, 08:14:32 pm »
Hi,

I just heard about this group through the TT Mailing List and thought it would be nice to post a message and see who is listening :)

So my name is Graham, I am 31 years old and a massive TT fan since I got the CD of Ancient Heart for my 18th birthday way back in 1989. TT was vaguely popular for a while here in the UK, but the music press got more hostile after the Sweet Keeper and downright abusive in a lot of cases. I get the impression things were better in most parts of Europe, but the UK still suffers from this anti-intellectual yob culture where anything like TT makes people uncomfortable. At least that's my opinion, but feel free to disagree and start a discussion  :)

I have noticed on the TT Mailing List that the public discussion is a little sparse, and that most of the interesting conversation seems to happen in private email. I hope that things will be a bit more open here, as the one sure thing you can say about TT's music is that it must evoke some personal response...

But enough from me for starters...

Graham

Hikka

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Re:Always trying to reach the rest of us...
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2002, 09:32:29 am »
Hey Graham! nice to see new faces here. Hope you bought all your friends with you cos there isn't that many people on th board yet.

see you, ;)
Hikka  

Graham

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Re:Always trying to reach the rest of us...
« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2002, 08:28:19 pm »
Most of my friends are not TT fans ( more fool them! ) so they wouldn't have too much to say around here  :( I was hoping that more people would join from the mailing list, but then no one can find anything to say on the list these days either...

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Re:Always trying to reach the rest of us...
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2002, 06:34:12 pm »
Your friends don't know about good music if they don't listen to Tanita. Well... to tell the truth none of my friends listen to her music either.

Dreaming of a one big Tanita forum with all her fans there. Hope more people find this message board. (we all should start a advertising campaign for the site  ;) )

ina

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Re:Always trying to reach the rest of us...
« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2003, 10:25:37 pm »
hey there  :)
i'm 17 years old and i'm from Poland. i just love TT. most people in my age don't listen to Tanita's music...which is sad 'cause Tanita is really good. i hope that at last i'll meet some Tanita's fans  :)

Hikka

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Re:Always trying to reach the rest of us...
« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2003, 10:36:42 pm »
Hey Ina!

Welcome, and hope you come back too because I'd love the have someone to talk with here. (Am I the only one who still checks the forum?)

ina

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Re:Always trying to reach the rest of us...
« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2003, 11:25:17 pm »
Hey Hikka  :)
i think this forum would be a really nice place if more people would come here. it's kinda lonely here  ;) i'd love to meet some fans of Tanita. i must admit and i'm kinda "new" fan  hehe

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Re:Always trying to reach the rest of us...
« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2003, 10:32:20 pm »
Hi again  ;)

Yep, I'm wishing too that more people would find this place. I'm also whishing that someday I would stop repeating myself... Hehe.

come back and see you!  :)

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Re:Always trying to reach the rest of us...
« Reply #8 on: February 20, 2003, 09:58:20 pm »
Hello all ,

I just found this forum !!!  :D
I'm also a BIG Tanita fan , way back since the first album ...
Too bad , because it's kinda quiet around Tanita for the moment .
I wish she would release a new album and go on tour again ...
I never saw Tanita live ...   :'(
I bought tickets once for a concert here in Antwerp , but it was cancelled because of the poor sales of tickets ...  :-\
Anyway , I'm looking forward in talking about Tanita with you all ...
Talk to U soon ...

Eric   :)

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Re:Always trying to reach the rest of us...
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2003, 10:34:46 pm »
hello Eric!   ;D welcome to the boards!


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Re:Always trying to reach the rest of us...
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2003, 02:20:21 am »
Wohoo! Even more people!

Welcome to the boards Eric.  :D

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Re:Always trying to reach the rest of us...
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2003, 11:19:11 am »
Hi!


My name is Karoly and I am Hungarian...I am 21 year-old-student.
I have been loving Tanita's music for 2001, I have bought her bestof album, and I have collected as I could from her in Hungary.
It's great to be here...
K.

DeeDee

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Re:Always trying to reach the rest of us...
« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2003, 09:08:31 pm »
Alright,
I think it's high time to greet all those who I haven't yet greeted.
Hikka - you're not a newbie so I'm not greeting ya.....  ;)

Well, to the rest of ya: A BIG HELLO, it's nice to see you all here. Hopefully, more are gonna come given the fact tanita-list is still down.  :( Though, on the second thought, I don't actually expect wild hordes of people coming if things remain as static as they are nowadays around TT. What a shame.

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Re:Always trying to reach the rest of us...
« Reply #13 on: November 26, 2003, 09:50:37 pm »
Just a quick response to a point made in Graham's post: I've never felt that the nastiness exhibited by the British music press had much to do with Tanita Tikaram herself, or the music she was making at the time. Many of the journalists responsible for making these remarks seem to think that adopting a posture of facile cynicism is the same as demonstrating critical acumen, when in fact there is nothing in the content of their writing to demonstrate even the slightest ability to comment knowingly on the subject at hand. Without exception the uglier aspects of this kind of gutter press begin and end with the most superficial aspects of Tanita's public persona. Certainly I agree that it is largely anti-intellectual, though perhaps only as a consequence of a stubborn determination on the part of those involved to stop at the surface of whatever music they may be listening to. No doubt we could each compile a very long list of other artists who have been dismissed and/or unappreciated in a similar manner, or, just as revealing, lists of over-exposed fad musicians who are extended far too much goodwill by the press despite their lack of talent (Kylie, anyone?). God forbid a journalist should actually have to invest some critical attention to the music they are paid to write about.

With the benefit of hindsight, we can see the pettiness of many of these comments. Anyone who has actually listened to a Tanita Tikaram album understands that she creates work that is far more complex than the press were capable of understanding at the time. Perhaps this is inevitable when the artist involved stands outside the fads of the day. The press in the early 1990's would have you think that her albums are morose intellectual chores to listen to, when in fact it she is often a joyous, sly and even goofy. It is a shame that certain journalists were never able to see beyond the cut and colour of Tanita's suits. Perhaps they would have understood her better if she had allowed herself to be photographed as a tart, like so many of her peers. It is to her credit that she resisted this tendency. Personally, I think there is political wisdom in the choices Tanita made as a teenager (compare her public persona as a teen on Ancient Heart , for example, to the persona of a teenage Christina Aguilera), wisdom that becomes more profound each year as younger and younger female singers with less and less talent are dolled up and paraded across an increasingly uncritical media. At the rate we are going, those black suits from early in her career are almost revolutionary, to say nothing of the songs themselves.    

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Re:Always trying to reach the rest of us...
« Reply #14 on: December 02, 2003, 12:22:28 am »
There were these comments in the press like ages ago (obviously made during the initial Black Suit Era, which is what I come to refer to it now) concerning Tanita's singing style, which was described as having been mainly conditioned by her thick bushy eyebrows - as much as her contralto - which is kind of "thought provoking" to say the least.

The underlying message of such comments was that no matter what she'd already done or would yet decide to do, everything would fall under one predefined category. And, following PoorCow's comment, by doing that they would intentionally overlook some of the most important aspects of her artistic expression simply because they might not have been brainy enough to understand what she was trying to convey, which wasn't solely about seriousness mixed with gloominess as they came to term it afterwards.

But then again the undisputed excellence (ooops i almost forgot about the natural endowment) of today's teenage pop divas doesn't seem to come anywhere near to altering the popular perception of visibility in the media. So as long as we have them around and as long as you're outside the circle of mutual adoration, you can forget about any constructive criticism, needless to say any meaningful insight into your work.

To many Tanita's still a long-haired one with a guitar, with nothing in-between.